Washington, D.C., Nov. 17, 2025 – One of the most important developments in recent UFO/UAP discourse just took place: Dr. Jim Lacatski, former Director of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), sat down for an** in-depth conversation with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on their podcast Weaponized.**
Knapp first aired a short preview** **of the interview on KLAS-TV. Now, in Part 1 of the full interview, Dr. Lacatski offers new insights from his time oversee…
Washington, D.C., Nov. 17, 2025 – One of the most important developments in recent UFO/UAP discourse just took place: Dr. Jim Lacatski, former Director of the Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications Program (AAWSAP), sat down for an** in-depth conversation with George Knapp and Jeremy Corbell on their podcast Weaponized.**
Knapp first aired a short preview** **of the interview on KLAS-TV. Now, in Part 1 of the full interview, Dr. Lacatski offers new insights from his time overseeing AAWSAP, the U.S. government’s 2008–2010/11 effort to study UFOs/UAP systematically. Few individuals have had such direct access to the classified programs associated with what some refer to as the UFO Legacy Program.
During the discussion, Dr. Lacatski did not hold back. He expressed deep disappointment with the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO), describing it as a “disinformation agency,” and hinted that a key clue to the truth lies hidden in a single unredacted line within the Kona Blue document. His remark immediately set the UFO research community abuzz, with many trying to determine which line he meant.
Dr. Lacatski is the co-author of the book “Skinwalkers at the Pentagon: An Insider’s Account of the Secret Government UFO Program.”
The Kona Blue Document — Searching for the Hidden Sentence
Thanks to a generous donation earmarked for research innovation, the New Paradigm Institute has developed custom AI-powered analysis tools to help advance our understanding of UFO/UAP-related materials. Using these tools, our research team uploaded the Kona Blue document to identify which sentence might carry the significance Dr. Lacatski alluded to.
The AI highlighted the following passage as potentially the most revealing:
“All deliverables are dependent on the initial analysis and assessment of associated existing and discovered information and materials.”
According to our AI model, this sentence stands out because it implies possession or access to physical artifacts—“discovered materials”—within a Top Secret Special Access Program. While we cannot confirm this is the exact line Dr. Lacatski referenced, it is an intriguing lead that deserves further attention.
We encourage readers to download and review the Kona Blue document for themselves and consider what its language may suggest about the scope and history of U.S. government UFO/UAP programs
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